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| Hi ladies, after 4 months of charting it has become apparent that I have lower than normal BBT. I have a great naturopath and she confirmed that my BBT's are lower than she would like. My post O temps are where my pre O temps should be. As a result she thinks that I probably have subclinical hypothyroidism. She said it can be fixed and not to worry to much. She gave me some herbal remedies and told me to avoid foods like soy ( as I guess it interacts with the thyroid) I am feeling a bit discourages thinking that this is why I have not gotten pregnant- has anyone on here gotten pregnant with lower than normal BBT's? I have attached 4 months of my chart so that you can see what I am talking about 
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I don't chart, but I only have half a thyroid. I had no problem conceiving either of my daughters. My thyroid levels are in the upper end of normal. Normal is 0.5 to 5 and mine are around 2.5-3.
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I am glad that your doctor is looking at this and offering to help you. You may need to get "real" medication to correct the problem, though (what I mean by that is by taking natural thyroid hormones, not just herbal remedies).
I have suspected for a few months that I also have subclinical thyroid problems, as I have many of the symptoms of hypothyroid, including low BBT (my "average" pre-O temp is 35.9C and post-O seems to be around 36.4C, but I've only been charting 2 months). However, 2 seperate blood panels showed no abnormality in my thyroid levels and my doctor insists that there's nothing wrong with me (I don't have a naturopath).
I'm not going to rule out that a possible thyroid problem could be the reason that you're not conceiving, but if you've only been trying 4 months, it might not be a factor. I know it's hard, but there is only about a 20% chance of conceiving every month, and that's if you get the timing exactly right. Some people are 'lucky' and are able to conceive without any problems, and some people it takes much longer. Statistically speaking in two normal, healthy people, 60% become pregnant in the first six months, 75% of couples become pregnant within nine months and 90% of couples experience pregnancy within 18 months. I know that 18 months seems like forever, but it's not unusual for it to take longer than 2-3 months.
Also keep in mind that your thyroid does NOT act alone in your body. I read this book called the Food Mood Body Connection by Gary Null (pick it up from the library, I personally don't think it's worth buying), and in there he talked about how the thyroid is related to some very significant aspects of your body:
thyroid malfunctions -> decreased energy levels and decreased desire to exercise -> decreased stress relief through exercise leading to increased stress levels -> increased level of cortisol in the body (stress hormone) -> suppression of thyroid function
It's a nasty cycle, but there's no clear beginning or end. Sure, you may have subclinical (or even clinical!) hypothyroidism, but the real question is WHY? What's not working properly? Is it something in this cycle, or is it something else? The pituitary stimulates the thyroid to produce hormones, but the pituitary is stimulated by the hypothalamus which decides how much pituitary hormone is needed by a feedback mechanism in the body. There is also an auto-immune disorder which causes your body to think that some of the thyroid hormones are actually foreign invaders and destroy them.
Anyhow, I'm sure you either know all this or can learn this all on your own. My point is that even if you have low BBT and possible sub-clinical hypothyroidism, that you may not know why. It may also not have any effect on your ability to get pregnant. There are also lots of conditions which can affect men (without having a lot of outward symptoms) that could influence fertility.
But basically what I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't give up hope. If you haven't already done so, you should have a full blood panel done on your thyroid; be sure it includes TSH, Free T4 & Free T3. There's a really good website at http://www.drrind.com and there's a chart in there that will plot the three of those in relation to each other (when you get the numbers) and depending on where they lie & other symptoms you have, it can tell you more about what might be going on in your body.
If you want to talk more about that in detail, please feel free to PM me. Also, if you want to join in the fun with your chart & TTC, please join us in the Charts Thread - there's a few women there who have been TTC for quite a long time, so there's tons of support.
I wish you the best of luck,
Melissa
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| thanks so much for the info, you made me feel better. I know 4 months is not very long but I'm just so impatient!!!!
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My pre-O temps were low just like yours - right about the same actually. I did have a harder time getting pregnant this time (it took us a year after the miscarriage) but I was never told it was due to low temps.
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| I had low temps too, and I went to a naturopath and she gave me some things to take and my temps have gone up and I'm having a regular cycle (every 31 days). The naturopath gave me two things specifically for the thyroid. I'll have to confirm what they are for sure, but I think the one is HTHY drops, and the other is active T3/T4 in pill format. I'll take a look at the exact names of the bottles and get back to you if you want. The naturopath said that usually if she gives patients the active T3/T4 then the patient only takes it for three months and usually after that they don't have to take it anymore b/c the thyroid regulates itself. The HTHY drops were used to kick start the thyroid as mine was basically asleep.
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| Thanks Sofa queen, I would be interested to see the name of what you got put on to see if it is similar to what my naturopath put me on. Cheers
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