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ShutterB (8/13/2008) Ladies,
Thought I would just add something to this post. Please look at your contract that you signed with your photographer. You may not own the rights to the photos to be having someone else edit/manipulate them. Most photographers are the sole owners of the photos and the bride and groom have licensing for the photos.
I don't want any of you to fall into any lawsuits. Please check with your photographer before sending your photos to someone to edit them.
It's good work that smoopie does but please look at your contracts.
Wow. Interesting that a vendor enjoys lurking through these boards.
It also begs the question: is this really necessary to post? Implying that the ladies of these boards are ignorant or oblivious about copyrights is not only pretentious but pretty offensive. FYI, many of the photos that I am editing are NOT professionally taken. In fact, most are from family member's & friends cameras. Scary how a few simple edits can make uncle Bob's photos look professional isn't it?
This is EXACTLY why I started learning how to edit photos. Some "professional" photographers not only know how to take great (and NOT so great) pictures, but also how to collect$. With digital technology being what it is today, there is NO REASON why a photographer should hold onto the digital negatives which essentially holds the bride&groom hostage to paying outrageous prices for enlargements and coffee table books. When a freelance photographer is hired by a business to do a photoshoot, he does the job, is paid, and goes home. The business then OWNS those images and can do with them what they like. When a photographer takes photographs for his own collection or for resale, he owns the rights to those photos then can SELL THE RIGHTS to use and reuse each image as he/she feels fit. If I'm paying a photographer $2000 to shoot my wedding, as far as I'm concerned he's being fairly compensated for his work and, I OWN THOSE IMAGES.
If nothing else comes from this whole thread but this, I will be happy:
LADIES: please know that there ARE PLENTY of photographers out there that WILL shoot your wedding, shoot it well, AND give you the digital negatives to own. FIND THESE PHOTOGRAPHERS AND HIRE THEM!! My advice to you if you encounter a photographer that says otherwise: STEER CLEAR!! Go to someone else who isn't looking to fleece you because you want to own your memories. And if they give you the typical "Intellectual/Artistic property" schpeel, just know that YOU ARE PAYING FOR THEIR SERVICES...if they were shooting your wedding for free then selling you one image at a time, FINE! But I'll be damned if I see another bride spend thousands of dollars up front only to be bled dry for her photographs later.
The most infuriating thing is that A LOT of these photographers not only charge extra for the "rights" to reprint but they either DON'T edit the photographs or they charge EVEN MORE for this service.
For those ladies that haven't heard from me yet, I have received your e-mails and will get to them as soon as I can.
Smoopie,
I don't lurk the boards, I'm newly married myself and enjoy reading the posts. Yes I'm a vendor. Do I do what you just mentioned when it comes to photography-not exactly. If my brides see something in their photo they don't like I'll fix it no charge. It's part of my service.
Please don't take offense to what I posted, by no means am I trying to take work away from you or imply that these ladies are ignorant. I think you do good stuff and if you're helping those who weren't able to have a professional capture their day then by all means keep on going! I just merely wanted to make some of the brides aware that their contract may have stated differently.
I go over my contract in full with my brides, nothing is hidden - unfortunately that isn't the case with all photographers. Some photographers as you say are money hungry and don't care about the bride and grooms feelings-I am not one of these. I know personally what it's like to be getting married, you find a photographer you love, you look over the contract thinking you've read everything and then you get your photos back and they're terrible, then they want to charge you an arm and a leg to fix them.
I don't work that way, so please Smoopie don't paint me with the same brush.
Again, by no means did I want to upset anyone
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I think ShutterB is offering great advice. These boards are wide open to public eyes and yes, we actually do get several vendors around the boards, checking up on feedback.
Just something to keep in mind ladies!
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ShutterB,
I did not intend my comments to be directed toward you personally. I apologize if you felt I did.
Thank you for acknowledging that there are some in the photography field that actually do practice business this way. Actually more than some.
Nonetheless, YES, this is a public board and vendors can and should look at what's going on here. That way, they can see that we are all well aware that not only should we have our photographs edited "for free" but we also have the right to own the images we paid to have taken. And, we also know that if one photographer won't offer this, there are plenty out there that will. We invite those photographers to make themselves known and encourage them to solicit our business!
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| As a person who got married abroad and can not have my photos edited by my photographer from my wedding, I truly appreciate smoopie and her work. And my photographer in Cuba charged me no where near what my at-home reception photgrapher charged me and on top of that my Cuban photographer followed through on all his promises. Unlike my AHR photographer. Let me tell you Ladies, if you have even a funny feeling about your photographer DO NOT book them. My photographer has been caught lying to me (She promised me that my engagement photo disc had been mailed out at the end of May and I am still waiting for it). She has promised me prints and that I would have them by the begining of this month. I am still waiting. She won't respond to my emails and she won't answer her phone or return my voicemails. I paid for four hours of her time and recieved a disc from my reception with 110 pictures, of which 20 are duplicates that she has edited (to sepia or B&W). She told me on July 9, she told me that my prints would be no more then 7 to 10 business days and that she would put all of the photographs on a DVD and create a slideshow. Again, I am still waiting. Ladies, research your photographer. Ask for references. I wish I had.
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Hey... I'd like to see what this would look like without the bobby pins showing! Stupid hairdresser Its one of my favourite pics too!
And I hate how yellow my eye teeth look in these 2: 

If the files are too small, I have the full sized ones I can email you!
~*B&B6 ~ May 24th 2008*~
Kinky as a cheap garden hose ~ or ~ Pure as the new fallen snow (thats been plowed a bit)
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brilee1 (8/18/2008) As a person who got married abroad and can not have my photos edited by my photographer from my wedding, I truly appreciate smoopie and her work. And my photographer in Cuba charged me no where near what my at-home reception photgrapher charged me and on top of that my Cuban photographer followed through on all his promises. Unlike my AHR photographer.
Let me tell you Ladies, if you have even a funny feeling about your photographer DO NOT book them. My photographer has been caught lying to me (She promised me that my engagement photo disc had been mailed out at the end of May and I am still waiting for it). She has promised me prints and that I would have them by the begining of this month. I am still waiting. She won't respond to my emails and she won't answer her phone or return my voicemails. I paid for four hours of her time and recieved a disc from my reception with 110 pictures, of which 20 are duplicates that she has edited (to sepia or B&W). She told me on July 9, she told me that my prints would be no more then 7 to 10 business days andthat she would put all of the photographs on a DVD andcreate aslideshow. Again, I am still waiting.
Ladies, research your photographer. Ask for references. I wish I had.
Brilee,
I'm so sorry to hear your at home photographer hasn't followed through on her promises to you. I always make sure that my clients have their photos in less than a month after their shoot.
I agree with you that you or any bride booking a photographer should feel 100% comfortable and should ask for references.
Again I'm sorry to hear you're having such a problem 
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